kahun
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Post by kahun on Feb 25, 2015 8:18:07 GMT
Would be good if there was an ability to run all android apps in windowed mode without the SDK, would it be possible if it was emulating a mini android environment in a window just for the app to run?
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Post by Gordon on Feb 26, 2015 19:22:49 GMT
Would be good if there was an ability to run all android apps in windowed mode without the SDK, would it be possible if it was emulating a mini android environment in a window just for the app to run? Running android apps / emulating android environment inside a resizable window might be possible, but all the solutions i seem done on that area require special rom support. So not a option for for a stock (non-rooted) android devices
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Post by icarus on Feb 26, 2015 23:21:53 GMT
On the store there is an app that can run all the samsung multi windows allowed apps in windows mode..you may investigate..
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Post by Stefan L on Feb 27, 2015 10:16:23 GMT
I've been thinking about the possibility to use cardboard VR case or similar. I don't know about the code but i assume that duplicating pixels on a new virtual window size would be doable. Maybe duplicating the mouse cursor is worse.
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kahun
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Post by kahun on Feb 28, 2015 10:02:02 GMT
I've been thinking about the possibility to use cardboard VR case or similar. I don't know about the code but i assume that duplicating pixels on a new virtual window size would be doable. Maybe duplicating the mouse cursor is worse. Would be a nice feature to try on my cardboard
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Post by Miklos on Mar 2, 2015 14:19:06 GMT
First of all thank you for the hard work and effort creating Andromium.
I have only one missing function apart the others already listed: - network file browsing in File Explorer (local network and FTP) would be nice.
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kahun
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Post by kahun on Mar 3, 2015 14:29:38 GMT
First of all thank you for the hard work and effort creating Andromium. I have only one missing function apart the others already listed: - network file browsing in File Explorer (local network and FTP) would be nice. Yes definitely this one as I would like to access my NAS
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Post by Stefan L on Mar 12, 2015 20:32:36 GMT
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Post by Smiler Online on Mar 29, 2015 23:26:14 GMT
Things have been a little quiet around here lately, I hope that the project is still in development. I was recently thinking about the concept that I put together on here to show how I would like it to look and how I could help to emulate that, obviously there will be a need for widget support in Andromium, but I developed the solution below to offer the Hardware resource monitor widget: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=touchtechnologies.resourcemonitorAlso I experimented with a few bits of Android code to see where improvements could be made in the UI, and it isn't very difficult to offer a multi desktop experience (much like the multiple home screens that you see in a typical launcher), though that would need support for widgets to be useful. Some of the recent improvements to the Android dev tools may help with UI improvements, and also check out the following page to find a large portfolio of Android-Material icons uxrepo.com/icon-sets/google-materialObviously there is still the limitations in Android which make it difficult for developers to make their apps more multi window/scaling friendly, but Google I/O is due soon and if last years I/O was anything to go by, then there may be a chance that we could see some big improvements in the OS & dev tools to encourage devs to support projects like this, And surely Google's Android team must have heard that there is a lot of interest in a desktop/laptop UI/Launcher in Android as there is only so much that you can do on the smaller screens, and this may enable users of the Chromecast to get more out of that too. But for now whilst most devs don't support multi-window/on the fly UI scaling, it might be worth adding a few more animations to the UI to make the experience feel a little better. Translation animations to enable sliding views may be nice for items like the start menu when opening/closing. In lollipop and above builds, it may be nice to see support for 'elevation' to enable shadows for the start menu and integrated apps like minesweeper etc. Anyway, I hope that things are going well with the project. If there is any news on progress, could you let us know, just to get some people interested in project again who may not be visiting the forums quite so often anymore. Also I hope that all of the team are OK!.
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Post by Gordon on Mar 30, 2015 3:10:25 GMT
Hi Smiler Online Thank you for the suggestions and updates. Widget is very possible even in the current Andromium OS Beta on the play store, however developing the individual widget themselves will be up to third party developers. Currently we disable the ability for user to add/remove widget is because we notice more unstable behavior when widget is added to the desktop (this is mainly due to memory leak issues with Android and widgets) Multidesktop should not be a big issues once the phone hardware (having the right video out ports) to support it, but currently most phone can only do 1 (or none) video out. Super MHL is suppose to change that, but won't be in the market for another year at the earliest Ya it would be interesting to see what is new at Google I/O, I use to work at Google, so I know how big a party it is every year. Can't wait to see what is new this year. UI transition is possible, but is not a high priority at this point of time. We going to include 1 or 2 standard UI transition developer can pick from in our Andromium SDK. UI eye candies probably not the highest priority at this point, but is on the future feature list. For the team, we are doing well. We are spending most of time right now trying to line up OEM partners, to help launch Andromium OS/platform commercially. We are really focus on trying to get a launch partner for the Smartbook we shown at MWC, so far we have a lot of interest, but are still in discussion phase for official consumer launch. We will let all our supporter know about project updates, as soon as we have something official that we can announce Happy Easter -Gordon
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Post by Smiler Online on Mar 30, 2015 7:23:23 GMT
Thanks for the reply/updates The multi-desktop that I mentioned was not to do with multiple connected displays, but much like on Google Now Launcher, when you swipe left or right(or click a button to switch) you can see different app shortcuts/widgets. This may be nice just to enable users to see their Home/Work apps separated and maybe even more variants, ie: 'Games', 'Media', 'Communications', etc. In a Layout XML you can use 'android.support.v4.view.ViewPager' to help with integrating something like this. Also one request that has come up in the past was wallpaper support. I would suggest adding '.Wallpaper' to your main styles parent like in the example below: '<style name="AppTheme" parent="android:Theme.Material.Wallpaper.NoTitleBar">' This would show the users wallpaper which they have set on their device. Anyway, I hope that some of this may be useful to you and Happy Easter to you too!
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Post by Gordon on Apr 7, 2015 20:14:14 GMT
Hi Smiler, multi screen desktop page is not currently planned, but might be something interesting to look into in the future. Custom wallpaper support is going to be available for the next release, currently we are working on adding new ROOT level functionality to Andromium OS to enhance user experience. Unfortunately progress has been slow. Stay tune for further updates.
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Post by Smiler Online on Apr 8, 2015 8:10:35 GMT
Hi Smiler, multi screen desktop page is not currently planned, but might be something interesting to look into in the future. Custom wallpaper support is going to be available for the next release, currently we are working on adding new ROOT level functionality to Andromium OS to enhance user experience. Unfortunately progress has been slow. Stay tune for further updates. Thanks for the update!. Hopefully with all of this recent news about Android apps running on any desktop through the Chrome browser there might be a possibility of Google's Android team building better API's to enable developers to work with re-sizable windows to better support these new options and enabling launchers like Andromium to provide a more desktop like experience and not be so limited by the OS and not requiring devices to be rooted to get the experience that the Andromium customers want... Google I/O 2015 isn't too far away now, so hopefully we will get some news about this very topic!. developer.chrome.com/apps/getstarted_arc
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Post by Smiler Online on Apr 10, 2015 7:12:31 GMT
Maybe this would be useful to add to your project in order to recognize the performance which is available to each customers device. It can be used to work out if the users device has performance similar to your typical smartphone from 2013, 2014, 2015, etc. So this could potentially make it a lot easier for you to integrate a few more performance demanding features/animations without impacting the users with lower end devices, but still allowing those customers with higher end devices to get the best experience possible from Andromium. github.com/facebook/device-year-classExample use case: public void showStartMenu(View view){ if (DeviceYearPerformance >= 2013) { // Do advanced animation //Slide start menu into view (Much like Windows 10 preview does) } else if (year > 2010) { // Do simple animation //Quick fade view in (100ms-250ms fade in animation) } else { // Phone too slow, don't do any animations //Just set view visibility to visible. } }
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Post by Gordon on Apr 13, 2015 22:02:20 GMT
Interesting suggestion Smiler Online, We will keep that in mind when we start working on fancy UI animations.
-Gordon
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